DW 9000

[Randy walker]

The 9000 in my book blows the AXIS, the AXIS has no friction in terms of action/reaction. The 9000 is VERY smooth but still retains the friction needed. It's hard to explain, all I can say is try one for yourself and I think you will be pleasently surprised at how this pdeal reacts. At this ppoint after using the 9000, I cannot go back to a 5000, I could feel the work needed to play the strap 5000 verses the lack of work needed to use the 9000.
Now I don't own a direct drive Yamaha but after lightly testing one out could see that this pedal has the same characteristics of the new DW.

[peter c]

Very interesting, Randy.

I think I know what you mean,
when you say the Axis has "no
friction". As to "friction
needed", I take this to be
something relative. In other
words, some drummers don't
like friction. Everyone is
different.

Thanks for the info. I will
have to try one, somehow.

DW has always made thoughtful
hardware. It sounds like they
have done it again.

I will be looking forward to
more information about it
from you.

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[Randy walker]

Don't get me wrong, the AXIS serves a purpose and for a time I used one and still own a double pedal AXIS. but it's way too smooth and has no reaction to it. The 9000 offers both fluid action, smooth feel and friction buit in a subtle way. More so to not to disturb the feel of the pedal.
I could be talking outside my realm here but I have never played a pedal such as this before, the nylon 5000 ha sbeen my pedal of choice for many years and before that I used a Yamaha nylon. When darryl introduced the AXIS I immedialty scored1, but then realized after about a year that my foot technique had actually weakened because of the AXIS. So when I returned to playing a 5000 it actually took work and practice to go back to playing silly things like doubles, 2 on top and 2 on the kic. I actually had to retrain my foot to play these simply things because of the usage with the AXIS.

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[peter c]

Randy,

Just the other day, I was on the
phone with Darrell, at Axis. He's
the nicest fellow. We talked about
the design behind his pedals and
especially the Axis-A Longboard.

One of the things we talked about
is player reluctance to change the
original configuration on the Axis'.

For instance, the beater distance
is something that I have changed
and at his suggestion, loosening the
Allen screw, above the spring as-
sembly and rolling the beater back
towards you. At the same time, you
should probably loosen the spring
tension some but you may not have
to, depending. This gives you a
lot more resistance, which I hear
some players complain about.

Another thing is I have added three
of the optional spacers, in order
to lift the footboard higher. This
alone contributed a great deal to
the action on my Axis-A. The pedal
comes at a lower level than most
other pedals.

So you have A's or X's, Randy?

You know, I wasn't kidding him, when
I brought up a longer footboard. He
says that other players have brought
this up and he is actually thinking
about it. Of course, it will be back-
ward compatible, when it comes out.

You can tell I am a longboard fan but
seriously, try these options, Randy
and tell me if they improve your
action at all. If I can help bring
more of the Axis out for you, I
would be glad to help.

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[Randy walker]

I have the A pedal, which was built in 91. No longboard.

[peter c]

Chances are, then, that you do
not have the VDL (Variable Drive
Lever), which is a real and KEY
innovation on the Axis-A, not
to mention the longboard, which
gives you a broader target range.

If you called or faxed Darrell,
I'm sure that he would be willing
to put together the upgrade for
you, at least giving you the
longboard.

I'm trying to think of whether
you could upgrade to a VDL.

I'll tell you what - I will ask
him for you.

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[sjj123]

Hope I could get some more talk about the 9000 pedal since I'm waiting for mine in the mail. Whats the best price you've heard of for one?

[peter c]

With that new pedal coming, I might wait.

If you have not seen it yet:

http://www.creativespecialprojects.com/boa_pedal.html

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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 12, 2004 06:42 PM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>

[ladanny]

I don't think those pedals are coming out for quite some time.

These are the pedals Randy was talking about, during the NAMM report, based on the bowflex system.

[peter c]

I just got this from DW:

Peter,

Thanks for your interest! The B.O.A. pedals will not be available until 2005. There are no cams on them, they operate on a direct drive system, which is in fact infinitely adjustable. Please feel free to contact us with any other questions!

Best regards,
Andrew Meskin
Drum Workshop, Inc.